The number allowed to participate in the ritual depends on the generation and power of the victim. Diablerie forces you free XP to do so or to learn disciplines the victim possessed. I suspect if not Reremouse, than one of the vampires that offers you blood and it being a matter of high hunger and low willpower in the moment. Caitiff is a complicated term with two general meanings. Cruac Rituals already have "Love-Lies-Bleeding" - which reduces the visibility of diablerie marks in the caster's aura. ) for every success. VTM: Vampire: The Masquerade, p. For an instant death sentence you need something of the severity of an unsanctioned slaying of Camarilla Kindred (especially if it's diablerie), infernalism or treason against the sect. They cannot blood bond, create ghouls, or embrace. Mage: The Ascension. What it says is: Anything goes in the Blood Hunt, and if the one who kills the target drinks it dry and claims a part of their power – the terrible crime of diablerie – so be it. The Book of the Grave-War (titled Das Buch vom Grabkrieg in the original German) is an eschatological text supposedly written by a German Malkavian in the 12th or 13th century concerning Gehenna and diablerie. Mortals, werewolves, and mages can be a target as well. It is just simpler to grant it in a bulk of xp rather than any other method. I talked to my story teller but they weren't 100% sure how to run the situation either. Diablerie is the act of consuming the soul of another vampire, but the Vampires soul is not destroyed, but is more like subsumed. See moreDiablerie is an act condemned by most vampires as it involves not only drinking another vampire dry but also stealing away their very essence or soul. It carries the implication that they were a mistake by their sire. And if a King can hold dominion over Men and Cainites alike, he could learn to hold dominion over his own beast. Effect: Uses the power of the Coterie’s combined vitae to overpower the targets soul, each coterie member effectively devours a portion of the targets soul. Each. Vampire: The Masquerade. The only reference about lowering blood potency or making your gen higher, that I can think of, is with the diablerie of Mithras. Now if you become a habitual diablerist that is another issue that is usually frowned upon, given that means your tanking your humanity which means becoming more likely to breach the Masquerade and/or go after your own sect if you become vitae/diablerie addict. Sorry I will. It can refer to: Amaranth, or diablerie, in Vampire: The Masquerade Amaranth, or. Salubri by default has +2 to Frenzy resistance. Tweet. Honors the history of Vampire: The Masquerade while advancing the story with streamlined 5th Edition rules. 2 Looks 1. Hello All. Born Xavier de Calais, he was Embraced in his native France during the Hundred Years' War. The short answer is that the diablerist must drink down their victim health levels after all of the vitae is gone. Add to that the fact that the veins fade at the rate of 1 year per difference in generation, minimum one, and Joe vampire could get away with it pretty easily just by waiting it out if he knows that. Back to the diablerie. Diablerie is the entire consumption of a vampire's blood and soul. However, the legends err on one point: A Kindred impaled through the heart with a wooden stake is not destroyed, but merely paralyzed until the stake is removed. Bonds made with humans aren't limited, as it doesn't mention a limit. If a vampire ghouled a human that was sufficiently evil and cunning enough, could that ghoul devise a plan where they betray their master, restrain or incapacitate them somehow, drain their vitae, somehow set. vtm I've created a Toreador with Eat Food, Inoffensive to Animals, Deceptive Aura, Hidden Diablerie, Blush of Health; he basically appears as a human until he starts using his. It doesn't help that the Sabbat's founding involved acts of diablerie. This time we discuss the Bloodbonds, the supernatura. the victim’s Resolve + BP. The act of diablerie can increase a character's Blood Potency and grant them. He has a beehive with bees in his belly. He is on a downward spiral. 309f) it says:Quite simply, diablerie is the act of feeding on a vampire in the way that a vampire feeds on a mortal. Go to vtm r/vtm. When faced with ting a grandiose diablerie in a baroque Cathedral. Feed just about any living creature a little vampire blood and it becomes a Ghoul, at least temporarily. Participate in a bloodhunt. V5 pg 234-235, Diablerie - immobilize the target, and drain them of all their blood (usually requires a full scene due to the thickness of Vitae compared to mortal blood) - Complete. Question about Ghouls and diablerie : r/vtm. 31), which requires collecting considerable number of blood points from lower generation vampires. As the game of personal horror, most derangements have been published in material for Vampire: The Masquerade. you get five EXP to spend immediately on Blood potency (up to the victim's blood potency. Additionally, Path of Blood Thaumaturges can detect it even centuries afterward. The streets of the city offer new pawns, feeding, open battle with rival Kindred, or a variety of dangers. Technically, diablerie refers to the cannibalization of drinking another's hearts/life blood. Diablerie is still a crime but just tasting before you kill the target seems to be legit. To do so imbues the diablerist with. The old diablerie rules from 2nd edition left it open ended. 03-27-2018, 07:50 AM. 4 Archaic Flaws 1. Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition, also known as V5, is the recent version of Vampire: The Masquerade and was released in 2018, with the publication of Vampire:. IIRC from the Camarilla book, while thin-bloods themselves aren't allowed in the Camarilla they may be used as disposable dogsbodies (in some domains being branded in such a way that the brand won't heal until they manage to 'thicken their blood'). The court system ensures that diablerie is managed – Lasombra are allowed, if not flat-out encouraged to cannibalize. Fall of London is a good example of how diablerie of the old and power goes. the victim’s Resolve + Blood Potency. An organovore cannot commit diablerie per se. But I have heard of cases in which one vampire is like "fuck this, I'm out", and he/she allows another vampire to drain him. Sitchrea • 2 yr. ago. The difference is just, that in vampire terms lower is better, since the original power gets watered down. to change clans, quit the game, go to vortex. Finally, characters have the chance to taste the blood of the Methuselahs – and gain immeasurable power! But at what price? There are worse things than Final Death. Frenzy only occurs with supernatural forces. 9 Contagion 1. You can feed off of any kindred fully without committing diablerie and at the same time drinking the last drop. Obviously their is little to gain from consuming the souls of thin-bloods, BUT some thin bloods DO have disciplines through a merit. Generation is an indication of how far a vampire is removed from Caine, the original vampire. 3) V5 pg 282, Thin-Blood Alchemy. Some traits are presented as Merits in some sources. They also gain the black-veined aura of Diablerie. Ok_Aardvark_6047 • 3 yr. Due to the conservative revival within the clan, lead by ur-Shulgi, al-Ashrad has joined the Camarilla with a collection of Assamite dissenters. Due to their massive size and terrifying construction, however, most Fiends have long since. Meaning that say a 12 generation will start a Blood Potency 1 and can raise it with XP up to 3 and that's it if the PC wants more blood potency he will need to diablerie to lower his generation and gain a new minimum and maximum. The act of diablerie is basically killing other vampires by drinking their blood dry, which makes you more powerful. Often, but not too often. Diablerie is the act of consuming the soul of another vampire, but the Vampires soul is not destroyed, but is more like subsumed. In VtM, Blood Potency is gained by XP or raising the Generation (again, by diablerie). Vampire: The Masquerade — Out for Blood. Finally, is part of the lore on Diablerie that should be considered. The thin Blood of the latest generations holds barely. If a kindred diablerizes a wight, will they be in danger of the wight's soul overtaking them, or is it "safe"? Or can a wight even be diablerized? I don't recall the exact book, but it was either Sins of the Blood or Chaining the Beast (revised. So technically it would be possible for the diablerizer's soul to persevere along with the diableree's the second time, but it's so highly improbable that the answer is "no". Now for a thinblood diabolizing another thinblood. 27K subscribers in the vtm community. In VTM, ghouls are omnipresent servants, easily created, and. While not as potent as their sires, the Fourth Generation, they are still categorized as methuselahs. That depends entirely of the circumstances and severity of the breach and of course politics. Hidden Diablerie (3pt. This would be something for your Storyteller to have a firm 'No' capability on, and likely become a larger arch if the players happen to decide to craft such. So currently my PC's are participating in a blood hunt their coterie helped instigate. Diablerie is an honor, it's a tool for succession, it's a war ritual (like head. A V1 Diablerist can eat, risk their humanity, eat, gamble. In 1688,. As a result, my interpretation of this is that a failed diablerie, particularly against a particularly powerful Kindred, actually passes the Clan of the diablerised over. Cross clan diablerie objectively doesn't exist as a concept, at best you can refer to TBs process of lowering their gen and fully developing the curse. Especially if the victim is of a higher generation. The only requirement to learn vicissitude would be to taste the blood of someone with protean for the Tremere, which he already did. V5 Core pg 220, Hunger Frenzy During a hunger frenzy, the vampire seeks fresh human blood from the closest source. Reply. I’d assume that having an addicted serial diablerist in your midst is unnerving even for the death cult practicing Monomacy. You're haunted by their memories, by their disembodied. Find yourself a vulnerable Tremere and eat them. If murder is a sin for the vampire, the Road loss is automatic, not rolled. I think that Diablerie specifically refers to when a higher generation vampire (ex. 64-65) requires human sacrifice on a massive scale (say, Jonestown). They do. Diablerie is still a crime but just tasting before you kill the target seems to be legit. 13 Ghouls 1. Diablerie is when a kindred completely drains another, resulting in the bitten kindred’s final death. You'd need, at most, 54 experience to level Blood Sorcery from 3-5 (assuming it's in clan or you're Caitiff) or 11 total Diablerie successes (average 2 diablerizations based on dice pool size). You can't succeed at a task that doesn't help her or that actively works against her. If a kindred diablerizes a wight, will they be in danger of the wight's soul overtaking them, or is it "safe"? Or can a wight even be diablerized? I don't recall the exact book, but it was either Sins of the Blood or Chaining the Beast (revised. But vitae can be highly addictive (and drinking the entire contents of a vampire is quite a lot), so unless that Ghoul is thinking about finding other vampires. Diablerie is not something that mortals can do. So in that aspect you can't "diablerize" anyone besides a vampire, in that you wouldn't call eating a steak a 'cannibalism. The venture's(c) player then demanded the thinblood(a) to look her in the eyes as she rolled her dice and managed to take over(she got way more and I forgot the number). Saulot opened the eye and used some Obeah/plot device to survive the diablerie. Diablerie. Properly used, Merits and Flaws help players create and individualize their characters. Reagents Needed: Targets Vitae, Coterie’s vitae, Garou Fang, 3 Kindred to perform ritual. V5 Diablerie and spending XP from it, you spend on disciplines known to the now empty juice box or Blood Potency (up to their level). The rules say that when you have drained the victim of blood you have to make some strength checks, but since the victim is paralyzed they cant struggle. Well Wights are just vampires who have succumbed to the beast, so just use normal diablerie rules and roll a die or something for their clan. The Banu Haqim, sometimes known (ignorantly or disparagingly) as Assamites, are one of the thirteen vampire clans of the World of Darkness. It's not imediate that one or the other comes up victorious and in control of the body. There's no way to lock in the increased Blood Potency because of generation limits, so you'll need to repeat the process nightly to maintain the power. The origin of the. The rule of 1 is technically a separate rule to botches but in. In general though: Diablerie is the ultimate sin. . The issue: Diablerie is meant to be a Heroin-orgasm-revelation experience. be accepted into Kindred society. Mage: The Awakening. Aka the person they just killed. White Wolf Worlds. How should I (as an ST) reconcile the high penalties/taboos surrounding diablerie with the relative ease of detecting it? 22. Vampires of the Fifth Generation can carry 40 blood points, spend 8 blood points per turn, and can have a maximum trait rating of 8 dots. Kuei-Jin can drink other creatures souls, but it is not identical to diablerie among kindreds. This not only allows them to communicate with and gain dominance over creatures of nature, but gives them influence over the Beast itself. You can't destroy another member without permission from higherups or winning a Monomacy challenge. diablerie mod. 35-37 ;Most diablerie consumes the soul - only very powerful or willful undead can remain as anything more than a soul shard, and even remaining as a soul shard isn't guaranteed. So no. However, the myths also state that the Minotaur would meet Final Death at the hands of Theseus. It's meant to make you dangerous. He may have been known as Ventru but his origins are clouded in mystery, with a lot of conflicting information. Awakening: Diablerie Mexico is a standalone scenario which allows player characters to track down and drink the blood of a Fourth generation methuselah in the jungles of Mexico. I. A single vozhd is the amalgamation of nightmarish ghouls that were grafted together through the use of Vicissitude and Koldunic sorcery. Well, the most direct way one might benefit from diablerizing higher generations is with the combination discipline "Drink the Mind" (Guide to the Low Clans ottomh, might be in other book too). He had delusions of divinity, and instilled in Vykos the need to continue his quest for building Heaven on Earth. So there you can chose to lose a virtue of your choice instead of humanity for a failure on the degeneration roll. r/vtm. The issue: Diablerie is meant to be a Heroin-orgasm-revelation experience. The first meaning is more of a political term: those of a flawed or unknown lineage, who have been abandoned by their sires. 1 Allies The roll itself to detect diablerie isn't the easiest thing. Kindred are able to buff one Attribute stat for one single roll of the dice by making a Rouse Check, the amount increased is determined by their Blood Potency. Originally Clan Quest offered seven new quests, each one specific to each of the seven clans. Werewolf: The Apocalypse. Known as wandering tricksters, mystics, and vagabonds, the Ravnos are incurable daredevils who gleefully pursue the art of unliving dangerously. once installed in vortex, only enable the clan your planning on playing. Your ST should have provided you with that. In VtM, especially V20, there are two official ways. But thin bloods cannot learn dots of disciplines without the merit that says they can. Basically, it is damning someone to a horrible existence, unable to move on. So, we’re going to show you how to diablerize players in Bloodhunt , what it does for you, etc. When the mortal has been Embraced and is a valid target for diablerie, the act of drinking is over and the chance for diablerie has passed. Consider war crimes in the real world. You can, of cause, use the opportunity for narration. this mod was built to run ontop of the unofficial patch PLUS so youl want to install that before installing this mod. Finally, mortals can't initiate diablerie, or (I believe) participate in it at all. Lasombra Catholicism. The Beast is kept at. Vampire: The Masquerade. It's exactly as fast as you let it be, though I don't believe you can lose more than one Humanity per night unless you get involved with Diablerie. Salubri were always few in number, even before the diablerie of Saulot and the Tremere purge. usually, a weak vampire's consciousness would be destroyed when diablerized. The Banu Haqim themselves can have any of the same interests as other clans, but in addition usually want to use their power and influence in order to pursue whatever their idea of justice is. The following derangements. Whenever you get to the antediluvians, rules don't apply as they apply to others. The old diablerie rules from 2nd edition left it open ended. you're accurately describing a fundamental feature of VTM. SOmething goes on during the embrace and the fledgling won't show any signs of the clan's. It is as loathed and feared as cannibalism is among mortal society. The elders do so out of need, the anarchs do so out of desire for power. It is discouraged because Elders don't want their childer eating them. txt) or read online for free. Also Diablerie is considered the biggest crime and taboo a vampire can commit and other vampires can see that you have done it. So it becomes a humanity V resolve roll. 14. 64-65) requires human sacrifice on a massive scale (say, Jonestown). Subheading "Committing Diablerie" has the system for doing the dead itself. Scribd is the world's largest social reading and publishing site. Technically, there aren't " (insert clan) TB". A page for describing Characters: Vampire: The Masquerade — Night Road. However you're free to commit diablerie on the enemies of the sect, which is pretty much every non-member. $endgroup$ – Jadasc. DIABLERIE: the cannibalistic behavior common among kindred, involving the consumation of the blood of another vampire. Z's whole deal is how fast she is, so the GM decides that this. Cf Amarantha (V:tM page 54). That definitely wasn't Diablerie. OK SO, get yourself a friend who is similarly set up with Agata Starek and Pack Diablerie. Basically, you get freebie points to spend in skills or knowledges the diablerized cainite had. There is one thing that elder Kindred dread even more than fire or the light of the sun. In some cases, resonance or taint can also be reflected in one's aura. Stronger willed Kindred (especially more powerful ones generation-wise) would sometimes leave behind "Soul Shards" - fragments of their personality that haunt the diablerist for all eternity. ago. The only cure for being a Thin-Blood is diablerie. Unfortunately they realized the ancient vampire would wake up in a frenzy and likely eat the whole city, so it was determined that three safest way to revive him would be to have a younger vampire diablerize. Diablerie is the heinous act of consuming a fellow vampire completely, down to the victim's very soul. I don’t quite get, though, what you mean by leveling up. 10 Other 1. When a vampire embraces, their childe rises from death one Generation higher than them — one more Generation removed from Caine. 42. The Camarilla in general needs new fighty clans to replace the Brujah and Gangrel. Members Online • charlesthenight . After many years of being a Vampire, the blood of mortals will sometimes not be sufficient to feed and sustain a vampire's thirst. . My main question regards the Clans that arose or benefited from from diablerie of an Antediluvian. Though you have 10 blood points in your body, only eight of them. The number allowed to participate in the ritual depends on the generation and power of the victim. Blood Sorcery 4 Ritual: Innocence of the Child's Heart (Chicago Folio) Blood Sorcery 3 Ritual: Bloodless Feast (Forbidden Religions) Pre-diablerie ritual. ”. Many of. 225) states the following: A vampire seeking to commit diablerie must drain all the blood from his Kindred victim. The vampires of the Sabbat are said to indulge in diablerie freely. From V20 Corebook, p 280 Stake Through Heart: A vampire can indeed be incapacitated by the classic wooden stake of legend. Open navigation menuCaine, also known as Cain, is thought by some to have been the first and most powerful vampire in the mythos of the World of Darkness. He probably committed diablerie, because a 4th gen Ventrue named Veddartha was active recently. It's meant to be addicting. A place to discuss Vampire: The Masquerade and the related World Of Darkness. 14. The courts regulate diablerie by accepting petitions to diablerize other Lasombra and authorize hunts - these hunts usually have conditions attached because the target must be guilty of something before the hunt is authorized. ) -Now, the diablerist and the victim make a Willpower Roll, Difficulty 6 : The goal is to have 10 success more than the enemy, imagine a bar going from -10 to 10. 9 Contagion 1. Samuel Haight Campaign This is a crossover campaign where the separate stories are played by different groups of. Veddartha is also said to have been the founder of the Road of Kings. I would allow an Organovore to go to zero by eating a fresh heart. Just burn a rouse check and rouse the blood to increase your Strength or Resolve if you want that extra +BP dependent dice to increase your chances, the best part is that a Diablerie Victim is incapable of voluntarily rousing the blood to increase their dice pool because they are. Hard to tell. In Sanskrit, his name means "wise and prosperous one". Plus the thin-blood has Frenzy and Rotschrek, greater risk of degeneration (because they have to commit assault on a bi-nightly basis just to survive) and the possible future of Wightdom in the cards. It is a story-based trait determined by the play group and the ST and the type of. Rituals are less versatile than paths, as their effects are singular and straightforward, but they are better suited to specific ends. Based on what we know of the story diablerie is the easiest and most probable of all choices, plus it requires a lot less work to implement than adding. ' However you can totally drink the soul power of various beings. Diablerie is the heinous act of consuming a fellow vampire completely, down to the victim's very soul. His bees are ghouls. Plausible ways for a Thinblooded Kindred to learn about Diablerie? Exactly what it says on the tin! I'm a Storyteller, currently running a game using 20th Anniversary edition, and happen to be creating a plothook involving a Thinblooded (wannabe) Diablerist as an NPC, possible (probable) antagonist. Add one dice to your dice pool when utilizing Blood Surge. so heres how it works. Breaking the masquerade isn't an automatic death sentence either. Those with Auspex are even able to see the diablerist's aura change after committing such an act. Like most things in VtM, it depends a lot on politics. Mage: The Ascension. When they got cocky and diablerized again, they got 0 XP and lost 4 (!) Humanity. One of my PC's diablerie'd her sire in our last session. ago. 13th gen) drains a lower generation vampire (ex. vtm I've created a Toreador with Eat Food, Inoffensive to Animals, Deceptive Aura, Hidden Diablerie, Blush of Health; he basically appears as a human until he starts using his disciplines. I think the overlap of our view would be: yes, they have resonance but you can only get it if you diablerize them. Tremere was a powerful mage turned vampire. However, there Blood Potency costs 10 × new level of Blood Potency. More mystical or religious vampires believe than with this life force Diablerist is devouring literal soul of it's victim. Diablerie and Wights. In early nights though, 3rd generation would arguably be weaker, though not weak. The short answer is that the diablerist must drink down their victim health levels after all of the vitae is gone. Pack Diablerie doesn't provide a new blood potency maximum, it only conditionally removes our regular one. The only thing I'd do differently is since you take in the soul of the person you diablerize, since a wight is 100% beast, I'd make it much more difficult to resist frenzy, since now your players have two beasts inside of. The rules have it that Diablerie gives you a temporary boost in disciplines. 2 Looks 1. This is the sin known as diablerie, or the Amaranth. -The Sabbat launch an attack on the city. But the diablerist could have some memories temporarily. They are, for all intents and purposes, the Beast within themselves. He probably commited diablerie, because a 4th gen Ventrue named Veddartha was active recently. Officially, Diablerie is the worst crime a vampire can commit. (If the closest source is their Touchstone, one hopes the player still has some Willpower to spend to take control of the vampire and send them after a different target. I'm torn between the two costs. . Diablerie and Wights. When committing diablerie, are the disciplines you're capable of learning only the specific powers the victim knew, or can they be from any discipline trees the victim knew? "Every success gives the diablerist 5 experience points to immediately spend on increasing Blood Potency (to a maximum up to the victim’s Blood Potency) or on disciplines. At Humanity 2, that character's story would have been over. First there is the From Marduk's Throat (Lore of the Clans, p. Go to vtm r/vtm • by. The discovery that an actual unliving Salubri is. First there is the From Marduk's Throat (Lore of the Clans, p. A thin blood who manages to commit diablerie on a "true" kindred absorbs not only their power and spirit but also their linage, turning them into a 13th generation kindred of their victims clan. Well there is one other way, but it requires the thinblood killing their sire and maintaining enough humanity that shock to their weak vitae makes them revert to human. As u/Mrchrisc pointed out there is a Valeren power that does it. Ghoul is a term used to describe a minion created when a vampire gives a bit of vampiric vitae to a mortal without draining him or her of blood first, which would instead result in the Embrace. Jun 4, 2019; Add bookmark #28. The Lasombra Antediluvian is a powerful third generation vampire with mastery over the shadows of the Abyss, and the progenitor of the Lasombra clan. Also his mastery of Obtenebration is nowhere near that of Montano’s. Mithras was member of the Inconnu in the first Millenium, left them to be prince. Hiding diablerie staints. While he was mortal he was one of the founders of the Order of Hermes and creator of House Tremere, that would eventually become the vampiric Clan Tremere. alexander-prince • 2 yr. If you followed a link here, you might want to go back and fix that link to point to the appropriate specific page. Go to vtm r/vtm • by. Vampire is the qualifier there. Lower generations might be able to take over the body of their Diablerist, but such things likely isn't possible for a higher generation (or worse, thin blood) to do. My dude, she just committed the worst sin possible in Vampire society. 14 th Generation (2-pt Flat – VtM Core) You were created five or fewer years ago by a member of the 13 th generation. Although she lacked a formal education, she learned much of politics by listening to her father and brothers. Vampire: The Masquerade. I'd built this character to; at some convenient, opportune point in the story; commit diablerie and then keep it under wraps from everyone. The elders do so out of need, the anarchs. The reason the Camarilla fears it is the same reason the Sabbat pursues. The Danava bloodline claim him as their founder, though they believe they are the original Ventrue. 14. Oracular Ability (3pt. Since the first version, even more new content has been added to the mod, including an additional path midway through the game,. Hardly a player will even be able to raise Blood Potency by a single point in a regular chronicle in modern age without resort to Diablerie. This requires an extended difficulty 9 Strength check, and interrupting the process at all (including a botched roll) will cause the diablerie to fail. Unable to create Blood Bonds, Embrace with certainty, or create ghouls. Officially only sires are allowed to diablerize their own childer when there is a Blood Hunt. Also Diablerie is considered the biggest crime and taboo a vampire can commit and other vampires can see that you have done it. Sometime before the end of the first millenium CE, Goratrix was a mage introduced into House Tremere after Tremere himself saved him from the stake as a young man in Poitou, France. Then there's the option of reaching blood potency 6 and creating your own bloodline. Among Camarilla society, diablerie is the ultimate crime; those who practice it are subject to the harshest punishments imaginable. Good luck. Under this rule, you get a point or two in one of the disciplines of the victim. Hard to tell. Half my players committed diablerie, and two opted not to. The act of diablerie can increase a character's Blood Potency and grant them access to powers and Disciplines known to the victim, but at a terrible cost to the character's Humanity. It's meant to be addicting. So the answer is going to depend on how power hungry and naive your character is. Fall of London is a good example of how diablerie of the old and power goes. VtM Diablerie Britain. This is due in no small part to their strict hierarchy, secretive. and that was a big deal. It also begs the question of why the others are hanging out with someone who would eat them. Having voices in your head or even that the victim takes over is a rare exception that usually only occurs if the victim was vastly more powerful than the diablerist. While it goes against Cainite/Kindred law, and every good vampire knows it's bad, how often do the coterie members in your…Thin Bloods have Blood Potency 0 and are locked to that, for as long as their Blood is Thin. At the last possible moment as the victim is. Diablerie, usually. TL;DR - If diablerie is indeed how we become a fully-fledged vampire then the answer to your question is almost. 7 Mythic 1. Exalted doesn't have this rule. .